New discussion in the #OpenStreetMap mailing lists: How do you mapping #GenderNeutral toilets in #OSM? The existing unisex tag is a little weird. Let's try to clear this up! https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2018-April/080559.html
@ebel @NerdResa As a white cis-male I'd like to honestly ask a question. Does it matter? I myself have no problem entering any toilet (and don't mind if someone enters "the wrong one") and consider entering "the right one" a courtesy towards others to avoid making them feel uncomfortable (some do, not my business). If you know, please give some "use cases" when it matters. TIA.
@steelman @ebel Please don't derail, there's plenty of resources on this question out there.
However, being cis myself, I'll take some time to explain:
It matters for example people with non-binary gender. Society tells them there's no place for them, in this case in a very physical way. Also they might get bad looks or worse due to people's cissexist views of gender which clashes with some people's gender presentation. Some have even been attacked.
@steelman @ebel @NerdResa in addition to nonbinary people, it can matter for (some) trans women and trans men as well (transfeminine people tend to get the worst of it), and for anyone who just doesn't look the way society expects a woman or a man to look.
If you have to fear stares, comments and physical violence in the toilet that corresponds to your gender, it's good to have a different option. If that could happen in both gendered toilets, even more so.
@ebel @NerdResa Yes. That is why I asked. I go to a swimming pool where parents of both sexes come into men's locker room with children of both sexes (of course not mothers with daughters) and nobody's got any problem with that. And, believe me, neither my country nor even my city is as progressive as I wish.
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