Perhaps if a space takes an explicit "anti-neo-liberal capitalism" approach, or defines itself as a "safe space for anti-capitalists", that could allow one to be rude.

An easier rule could be "We are not all capitalists here, so maybe don't repeadily promote & advocate for that. Please don't mention it, or corporations." Kind of a "don't ask, don't tell" for corporations/employees?

"Be nice/welcoming/friendly" is decent advice in general, and many communities have a history of being (too) combatative (to put it mildly!)

Can that rule work with "professional"/corporates/capitalism? How can it work?

If people very closely identify with their corporate employer, doesn't that make it difficult to criticize that corporation? Especially in an event/space which has a "be friendly/welcoming" ?

Bigots sometimes want (and get ๐Ÿ˜”) laws requiring all positive mentions of some marginalized attribute to always come with "alternatives", like for balance.

Imagine if we let corporate advocates into our spaces, but we required them to always mention alternatives to capitalism!

RT @Kevind04@twitter.com: AMERICAN PODCASTERS DOING AN AD: This will 100% revolutionise your life. I've never felt more strongly about anything. Ever.

BRITISH OR IRISH PODCASTERS DOING AN AD: Sorry we have to do this. I'm sorry. It's probably a bad product. Forget about it. Sorry.

twitter.com/Kevind04/status/10

Sunbeam City's /rules/terms have some helpful definitions here:
"Repeatedly advocating or defending Capitalism ...
Advertising, recruiting, or otherwise soliciting on behalf of and/or for private, for-profit companies."
sunbeam.city/terms/

Did you ever notice how American Programmers/tech workers tend to identify a lot with their employer? e.g. "I'm super excited to be part of [COMPANY]", using "we" for things the company does.
Is there a name for that sort of thing? Is there a definition of that? Of how to identify that?

I'm too cynical/Irish/European to do that sort of thing. My employer is just where I work. (I have a great relationship with my boss)

Proper (for ) projects often explicitly allow criticism of institutial racism/sexism/etc.

I wonder: Would it be good to explicitly allow criticism of (neo-liberal) ?

""Iโ€™m exhausted explaining to people the geography of their own country"

"Herein lies the difficulty - how to educate someone on their own history, without sounding like an overly sensitive, confrontational IRA sympathiser? Is it possible to let go of the past, when one of the parties involved is unaware the past took place?"

Great article summarizing what many, many people experience, that's the Brits know sweet feck all about Ireland.

irishtimes.com/life-and-style/

Scared Silicon Valley billionaire:

Look, you're just not grasping the scale of the AI threat. What if an AI one day is built that decides to harvest large chunks of the Earth's biosphere in order to make some numbers in a financial engine go up slightly? What would we all do then?

Climate change and species loss researchers:

Really? That's a thing that could happen? And people might not believe the predictions? Do go on.

Billionaire:

Well OBVIOUSLY I don't mean it's happening NOW

RT @substack@twitter.com: programmers: RTFM
also programmers: [have never read any contemporary academic scholarship on a social topic]
also : [have ignorant and offensive opinions about contemporary social topics, unknowingly or knowingly reproducing imperialism and white supremacy]

twitter.com/substack/status/10

"The British-Irish Dialect Quiz"
The New York Times has done one of those accent quizzes, but it's for Irish (& Brit) accents. There's loads like that for USA, so it's great to see other places. (It got me right)
nytimes.com/interactive/2019/0

It's OK if people use Google Docs themselves I suppose. But we shouldn't expect others to have it, or demand they do. People shouldn't feel like they can rely on that.

Ah google docs. It doesn't work unless you have a google account. And it wouldn't let me make a new one.

This is supposed to be a document about "inclusivity"

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